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Am I missing something?

I have the option to crosspost my own entries.

I have the option to crosspost my own comments to other people's entries.

I do not see any button to post anyone else's content to my Facebook or Twitter.

So what's the big deal?

Date: 2010-09-01 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
There's a "share" button once you go into the post itself. It is in the toolbar that has previous entry, add to memories, share (brings up the panel for twitter/facebook/buzz/etc), track this, report as adult, and next entry. If you like I can share this one to show you. :-/

Date: 2010-09-01 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
The "share" button has been there. And it remains not-there on locked posts. And we've all always shared links to public posts.

Date: 2010-09-01 04:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Hrm, maybe you can only (easily) repost the comments...? Who knows?

Date: 2010-09-01 04:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
If you crosspost your comment in someone else's post, a link to that person's post will appear on Facebook/Twitter.

For someone like me, who has been hiding in plain sight on LJ, this will announce to your Facebook world that I have a journal over here.

Up 'til now, the only way someone IRL would be likely to find my LJ is if a fellow LJer told them (unlikely) or if the someone IRL were already on LJ themselves. If anyone was going to find it, I wanted it to be organically, because they were already familiar with LJ and perhaps had one of their own.

I've always written my public posts with the idea in mind that somebody off-LJ might find it someday, but I'm seriously debating locking the whole thing now.

Date: 2010-09-01 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Yeah, but IF I were, for whatever reason, to cross-post my comment to your locked entry to my Facebook, it would appear on my News Feed to my friends, who either know you through LJ or have no effing clue who you are and would be told upon clicking the link that, "You are not authorized to view this protected entry." Even if we had mutual real-life friends who didn't know about your LJ, I don't see why they would have any reason to link you to this "Evelynne" person I'm talking to.

I think it's a stupid feature, honestly--without context, the comment will almost invariably be meaningless. I just don't understand why everyone is worried about their friends sharing the content of their protected posts.

Date: 2010-09-01 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
What I've heard people saying is that some well-meaning but not very computer literate folks might end up making a comment about something in a locked post and the comment itself reveals things about the poster that they don't want shared. Like how sometimes people forget that a post is friends-locked and go and quote from it. I dunno.

For me, it's a step in the direction of having LJ be much more public and find-able than it used to be. In some ways we used to be like a little hidden village, you know? Now there's more potential for any idiot to stumble over it because everything's so open on Facebook.

Date: 2010-09-01 04:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]

If I had either of these accounts linked, I could clicky either or both of the buttons and your post would be cross-posted.

Date: 2010-09-01 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
No--your response to her comment would be cross-posted, with--I believe--a link back to the post containing the comment(s) in question. If you didn't include any of the content of her comment, it would not be publicized.

The only problem-ish is that the existence of the journal/post in question would be publicized, which could be problematic to the owner of the journal/post. (This could also be done manually, but is somewhat less likely than when tickyboxes make it easy.)

Date: 2010-09-01 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ahh, okay.

We really need to set up a test where someone with a FB/Twit account actually DOES the x-post and see what shows up. Someone could volunteer to have a post cross-linked, maybe?

Date: 2010-09-01 05:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Gah--I did come across a link where someone did this between their and a friend's locked posts/accounts, but I think it was buried in the thousands of comments to the [ profile] news post, and I can't find the damn thing among the uproar.

Date: 2010-09-01 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I think the issue would be if you're leaving a comment with personal information on someone else's business, that seems pretty intrusive. Crossposting comments to FB/twitter seems like a useless option to me? But with all the twitter/FB crossposting abilities, I guess LJ wanted to jump on that?

Date: 2010-09-01 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I guess I'm thinking that unless the comment is something like, "Gosh, [realname]+[lj name], crabs do sound like an irritating problem, and I certainly hope that your [boyfriend/girlfriend] doesn't find out you contracted them from at your 'second job' before you get rid of them," (which is over 140 characters anyway), there's no real context even if the comment were to reveal personal information.

Date: 2010-09-01 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Yeah. Seriously.

I don't see the point of this ability anyway. Maybe for your own entries, but for comments? Wonder when this will be taken away.

Date: 2010-09-01 11:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
For me, all it would take is an association between my school and my LJ name. Seriously, there are 17 people in my department. It wouldn't be rocket science to figure out which teacher is tech savvy enough to be me. Then I can well imagine some nitwit with a grudge and enough money for a lawyer... that's always a risk of the job for me.

Date: 2010-09-02 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
I understand that, and I'm not trying to minimize the seriousness of potential breaches of privacy. But even in the worst case scenario, since the LJ user's comment would post to their own Facebook account and not yours, and since there wouldn't be any association between your LJ name and your real name, why would the name of your school or your department even come up, much less in a way that could be linked back to you?

In the case of another LJ user with a grudge, I don't see how the Facebook link facilitates incrimination. It would be easier to copy your posts and email them to your supervisor than to share bits and pieces of them in 140-character sound bites.

Date: 2010-09-03 06:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
Ask Livegame-Amanda on FB. I think she has her LJ and FB linked and would likely be able to explain how.

Date: 2010-09-07 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile]
The big deal is the age of Internet anonymity is over (and has been for some time), and a lot of people want to pretend that it isn't.


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